Art Bell Coast to Coast AM Radio Show
31 May 1996, 11pm-4am PT
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Friday Night / Saturday Morning 5/31/96 on the Art Bell Radio show USA,
former Major Ed Dames joined Art by sending an introductory fax about himself
and some "earth change" topics related to Art's show of the night
previous, and then with Art's response, joined him via telephone on the
air. The segment where he joined the show lasted about 49 minutes.
- What I call "the quickening" seems well underway. Somebody
uh, reminded me by fax here a moment ago, the Chinese proverb is not a
proverb at all, that "you shall live in interesting times," it's
actually a curse. We are CURSED to live in interesting times, and they
are getting almost unbearably interesting. By the way I just got a fax
from Major Dames, you know who he is? I'll tell you all about him, he was
on Nightline not long ago, man who participated in the mind experiments
with the government. Black budget stuff. Weird. And what he has to say
is weird too. So Major, if you're out there fax me a number where I can
call you now, or in the next 30 minutes. And we'll read that fax in a moment.
- I got a fax a little while ago from Major Ed Dames. He is the President
of Psi-Tech. Uh they do remote viewing. It was the the subject of Nightline.
If you'll recall, the government, over many years now, has dumped a lot
of money and time and effort into remote viewing. So, it's not as crazy
as it might seem. And the fax from Major Dames says the jet stream is beginning
to shift and writhe. In several years it will sporadically drop down near
the deck (WE are the deck, here, heh): Look forward to catastrophic weather
changes and very dark skies within the next few years. 125 mph microbursts;
300 mph grazing winds pick up lots of dust. And he says I'll save the really
grim environmental stuff for later. And I managed to get him on the line,
I know it's very, very late, uh, Major welcome to the program.
- Uh, well -- well let's see, um, where to begin, um, this is a pretty
serious fax, but you know it's backed up by a little news item I've got,
uh you know people saying that suddenly uh the weather we've been having
IS unusual, is NOT normal, is NOT cyclical, that something IS going on,
and that seems to be exactly what you're saying, what can you tell us?
- Well, we have -- uh the company, Psi-Tech has, in addition to our training,
and our uh, high level contracts that we perform for various agencies and
corporations, we have two in-house projects, they are, one is an in-house
study, uh an environmental study and the other is a, a project, that we
call Project Starman. The uh, these are [?] about two years now, [?] we
have another year. And uh, basically using Technical Remote Viewing, the
same method that we used to track terrorists uh for the government, and
to uh, find hostages, uh, and to cross-qeue other intelligence systems
during the gulf war. We use these methods uh, for peaceful purposes, uh,
[?] civilianized the technology.
- Uh, we were, we began to uh, to [?] data indicating that human babies
would be dying soon, many human babies, and so, I won't go into all the
technical aspects of this, to make a long story short here, it appears
that we are dealing with a very immuno-suppressed planet, um, in uh, technological
shorthand, uh, babies will begin to die, I think uh, because of um, because
of this, many human babies. Uh, if you look at the surrounding [?] of the
biosphere, you will probably not have any frogs, uh, left on the, on the
- I -- I've seen -- I've seen stories, ah, about disappearing frogs --
- Yeah [?] happening -- our - our work indicates that, [indecipherable
section], indicates that shortwave ultraviolet is killing frogs eggs, eggs
are laid in shallow uh parts of the water, and they're, the ionizing radiation
from uh, the UVV, the short ultraviolet rays, are uh killing, first mutating,
and now are killing the eggs, so um, ah that is one aspect that I'm looking
at. Uh, [?] dying human babies, essentially what it appears to be is allegorically
like uh, the planet is administering its own antiobiotics. Antibiotics
to take off uh to take out something that is ailing it's surface.
- Yeah and it uh, uh ultraviolet's a good way of uh accelerating that,
uh, so you see all the mutation in bacteria and viruses, particularly that
bacteria, that's the information that we've had, our report won't be finished
for another year, um, I thought I would tip you off, particularly about
the problem with babies. It appears that there is a bovine AIDS virus developing,
this will jump ship, and it's transmitted by uh dairymen who will use the
same needle to inject the hormones in their dairy cows [indecipherable]
can't any longer, but this bovine AIDS will uh, will uh become a toxicological
insult, that's the terminology and [?]ology, to uh human babies whose immune
systems are um nascent, and they will die in relatively large numbers.
- God. (Art has been making wordless sounds of surprise and horror
throughout the above paragraph.)
- So um, not something to look forward to, but sometimes, you know, the
facts uh, um, or that kind of a warning, will serve to uh, to get a lot
of mothers up on, uh, putting their babies on mother's milk, uh human mother's
milk, and perhaps milk substitutes.
- Uh, and uh, we're looking at some other problems too uh, broken uh
reactors, uh atomic reactors, in the former East block countries, the maintenance
is not being pulled the way it used to be, so we're, we're gonna stress
ourself [?] radiation-wise [?] from both ends: ionizing radiation from
above, that's [?] the inlayer holes [?] and uh from below, our own problems
- What about the climate, um, you know arguably the hurricane season
and now the tornado season have been horrible! I mean absolutely horrible.
- Yeah we're looking at -- uh, before our study, we did not realize how
delicately balanced the earth's environment was, we assumed that it could
re-establish homeostasis or equilibrium quite easily after drastic changes
but that was not true. I was amazed at how delicately balanced the planet
was, um, the ecosphere. The geophysics.
- And uh looks like the atmosphere is degrading, very rapidly, at uh
timelines that we thought were out in the decades and now within a decade.
Um, and that is resulting in, uh, the jet stream, specifically the uh,
one of the things [?] the jet stream over North America. And uh we're predicting
that the jet stream will begin to - as I mentioned in the fax - twist and
writhe and start to drop down and graze, the uh, graze the surface of the
earth or come near it. Jet stream moves about 300 mph, but it will produce
cat -- chaotic effects, among those probably uh microbursts and other things,
eventuating, it'll pick up a lot of dust, there'll be a lot of dust and
very dark skies. The vicissitudes of these weather changes will preclude
growing crops the way we have ever grown them before. Either you grow them
underground, or in very solid buildings, or in hermetically sealed units
- How - how - how close to this are we?
- Uh, again, we're, we're, my company's one year out from a final report,
but uh, I'd say we're looking at um about four to six years between where
the stuff really hits the fan, that means that [you're?] going to have
start going indoors for long periods of time because of the high winds.
And uh, you're, you know, we'll have water and crop problems uh to boot.
- And what is -- is this all related -- you talk about babies dying,
immunological changes, uh our immune systems uh weakening or being weakened,
and the climate changes -- is this all being produced or done by -- is
the same effect behind it somewhere?
- It -- I -- I'm not -- I'm not certain, I'm not certain if the two or
correlated, all I'm saying is that when we work the way that we work, we
see this parallel, these parallel tracks, the degradation of the atmosphere,
in conjunction with very rapid mutations and EXTREMELY serious epidemics
and pandemics, uh, mostly bacteriological, to the point where the Center
for Disease Control along with many laboratories will not be able to keep
up with the, with vaccines, the bacteriological mutations and their subsequent
epidemics uh, [?] immunological [?] will run ahead of our ability to counter
them, producing very serious [?]emics, particularly third world countries,
Africa and India, even more developed countries like China.
- Major what uh, what probability do you assign to this all occurring
as you have suggested it will occur -- in other words, is there some probability
that a different path can be --
- No, no, the answer is no, uh I wouldn't be talking on the phone --
when, when I speak about Psi-Tech studies I put my company's reputation
on the line, here we just have general and cursory results, and there's
no, my signature's not on a report to the public yet, but uh, the confidence
factors are high enough to tell you that this is what is going to occur,
as far as we're concerned in the company, the timelines have not been established,
but uh, as far as we're concerned, and I -- we have double checked this,
it's too late, uh, there is, there is no remedial action.
- What -- what advice do you give to individuals, if somebody called
you and said, "I believe you, all this is going to happen, I think
you're right -- what can I do?"
- Alright. You need to move to a cold climate, the colder the better.
Here are, here the parameters: cold climates uh uh will stay the introduction
of tropical viruses, african [?]ephylitus, [?], a, a number of other [?]
are tropical, and they can't mutate fast enough to become other than latent
in cold weather. So cold climates, they are, are are very, they will be
of survival value, as well as uh [for?] many the opportunity for fresh
water, snow packs [indecipherable] fresh water. So that, that's one thing.
The winds that will be predominantly in the mid-latitudes of the earth,
uh, mostly, are going to be very high, so, build underground, or be in
extremely solid structures, that will necessary. Uh, food will be a real
problem, a very very serious problem --
- So in other words, store food.
- Well yeah, store food, but we're going to have to as a country start
really re-thinking the way we grow food, it's ridiculous to think that
we can continue to grow crops the way we do now, [?] temperatures [?] that
we see right now, not to mention in a few years we will have no food, you
know, our wheat crop's gone for the time I think in history.
- It's true, uh, there -- there's a horrendous drought uh in the Midwest,
what can you forecast for that, is it gonna be relief, it, it just continues
- Major when did you begin coming to these conclusions, uh, when did
this data begin to harden for you?
- We are actually, the uh, military remote viewing team, I was the Operations
Officer, um, and one of, and one of the remote viewers for that team began
to pick up the dying babies about 10 years ago.
- About 10 years ago, and uh, of course, that kind of uh, that kind of
work had nothing to do with national defense issues, so we didn't spend
a lot of time with it, we were looking at the Russians and the Chinese
and other potential adversaries --
- So it was really then when you moved into the civilian sector that
you began to concentrate on this.
- That's correct, I civilianized the military technology, founded Psi-Tech,
we began to look at this, this and and another project that we call Project
Starman, that, that uh, we keep pretty uh, pretty close to our chest. These
are our two in-house projects that are our initiative, Psi-Tech projects
where we essentially do the studies and and provide the public with the
[indecipherable], the outcome [cut off/indecipherable] --
- Major as you, alright, as you look ahead, this grim outlook, uh, can
you tell how long it will last, whether there will be any relief, or does
it just keep getting worse...?
- We've looked out uh in [?] years pretty far, and in fact we've [?]
a study for um, uh, the Institute of, uh, the Human Potential Foundation
in Washington DC a number of years ago, Psi-Tech did a study and as a result
of that, uh, saw that these, these effects last quite awhile, but I'm not
ready to put timelines on it yet. I will say however that the effects that
we're experience, that we're beginning to experience now started about
a year ago, and they're gonna become catastrophic uh sooner than we think,
ballpark uh I'd say four and a half to six years [uh] max, [indecipherable]
people will spend a lot of time indoors.
- There's a lot of -- [sigh] -- there's a lot of people out there who
would say, this is, uh, just sort of, millenium madness. Not so huh?
- I would like to, I mean it's very attractive uh for all of us, to think
that, and um, I'm not here trying to fuel any paranoia, but uh, it's more
than millenial madness, I kind of, I think that maybe the bible um, um,
pinned it down, and that's, we're, we're, it called it right. [Art and
Ed both chuckle.] Years ago.
- Uh, I've called it -- you know I'm just a talk host Major, and I observe,
and I watch the news, and I dissect the news and pick it apart for what's
controversial instinct, and I've done that for a dozen years just doing
this program alone, and I, have come to call it -- what I -- I call it
"the Quickening," I know you've heard me say that. And -- that's
all I can say, uh, that things are changing and rapidly and at a very much
accelerating pace. I don't know where it's going, I don't know where it's
headed, but you apparently do, and it certainly is a grim outlook. No escape,
- No, there isn't, um, doesn't appear to be an escape, uh, we can't evolve
as a race unless we survive, so that's one of the reasons, that's the predominant
reason why uh Psi-Tech is conducting this environmental study to, to attempt
to at least get survival information out on the streets because we simply
cannot evolve as a race, unless we survive, and uh, so that's, watch, uh
watch for despeciation and sterilization [?] many species [?] die out,
all the, uh, uh the multitude of species of birds that you normally see
[?] season, you'll see fewer and fewer species as the years go by.
- What will Major Dames and company do, what are you doing, can you even
tell us, I mean, you must, with the knowledge you have, you gotta be personally,
and from a corporate point of view, preparing yourself to survive.
- Correct. Personally and from a corporate point of view, we are preparing
ourselves to survive.
- Well, you're in, uh, you're in Beverly Hills California.
- Well that was the next -- [laughs]. So in other words, you're going
to follow your own advice, and you're gonna be getting out of there pretty
- Within two years. Uh, and can you tell us where you'll be headed?
- I think I'd be heading for points West and uh, South.
- Uh, West and -- well you go West of Beverly Hills and you're in the
- Ah, so, you're headed for an island somewhere.
- Ah, that's a good guess! [laughs]
- [laughs] Oh, god... Uh, this is, this is HORRIBLE news and it is a
-- how many, how many people with you have come to these conclusions, how
big is the, is the team?
- Yeah, 30. [?] These people [set?] standards as good or better than
uh the technical remote viewing team employed for the the military, for
- [sighs deeply] Um, well, well you've scared a lot of people this morning,
I guess what I'd better do is ask you if on another night we can schedule
a program with you, uh, at an earlier hour, to begin at an earlier hour
- Well, we can do that, it -- our -- again keep in mind though that these
are these are in-house things, [?] this study, [?] this particular study,
this environmental study, will require another year of work before we,
before I sign my name to the report. So we're we're talking about the preliminary
internal results here.
- Alright, so in other words, consider what you have just told us to
be preliminary information.
- Major, I wanna thank you, uh, very much for being here this morning,
uh we will schedule the program with you, thank you my friend --
- Take care. Major Ed Dames. President of Psi-Tech. And uh, I don't know
what to tell you about what you just heard, but it was compelling, and
I felt it should be on the air. You're listening to the CBC radio network.
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