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WEDNESDAY APRIL 9TH 1997
PUBLIC ONLINE CONFERENCE WITH ED DAMES
PSI-TECH CHAT ROOM

initial chat waiting for Ed (who was late) is edited...

[Ed Dames] martin, ed dames here now on a pc!

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #177 from Laloni: What makes your version of Technical Remote Viewing different from others and how can you guarantee 100% accuracy?

[Ed Dames] TRV is not a "version." It is a separate entity that evolved over 13 yrs from its birth as Coordinate Remote Viewing.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #179 from Biglou: What is the strangest thing you have evered RV?

[Ed Dames] Probably Angels...

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #182 from Lightyear: Thanks for doing this chat with us Ed. Do you ever wonder if your doomsday predictions are the result of tapping in to a collective anxiety about the future that is found in the population at large?

[host] sorry the connection was lost

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #75 from Nathan: Hello, thanks for your time! I would really like to know what the beings who sent the pathogen are planning to do once its effects have been passed on. And could you elaborate on who they are please? thank you.

[Ed Dames] We have not established "chain of custody" on that special delivery package, i.e., we have not established "ownership."

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #81 from Dreamer: Does Maj Dames stand by his fax to Art Bell re Hale-Bopp a & b ? Martin presents the speakers with question #153 from Plau: Could RV capabilities be enhanced by electronic means?

[Ed Dames] The cylindrical part has already detactched.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #156 from Plau: How does one know which signal line you are on, without going into another dimensional/parallel universe?

[Ed Dames] No. At least not real-time, i.e., you cannot effectively monitor something like a biofeedback machine and perform a TRV session, concurrently.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #163 from Laloni: Would like to know update of Kramer case - body found yet by authorities, etc?

[Ed Dames] The family does not want to persue it...some truths should be left alone.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #168 from Lightyear: Ed, do you see an increase in the need for trained remote viewers by business in the next ten years, or do you think it may be much longer before there is a real demand for remote viewers in the market place.

[Ed Dames] PSI TECH has had no shortage of business since 1989, when I founded the company. Businesses would do well to have a team of TRVers, but people usually use the skills for their own personal development, vice their company's.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #184 from Megafont: is there any potential danger of having oh,say,2000 people rv'ing the same target,at the same time? Or would this concentration improve the clarity of the target?

[Ed Dames] Don't know what you mean by "danger." Results would be almost immediate, along with a plethora of details.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #185 from Nathan: Hello, Major. I would like it if you would please elaborate on who the beings are that have sent the pathogen, and what their plans are concerning why they have done this. Also, what do they plan to do in the future? Thank you for your time.

[Ed Dames] The only data that we have indicates that an "intelligent agency" was involved (possibly "superhuman") and that the package is succor for a sick planet--our own.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #187 from Kitab: Russell Targ in his book, The Mind Race, elaborates at length about Associational Remote Viewing. Do the TRV training tapes teach those protocols or similar ones?

[Ed Dames] Associative RV; hit and miss, no consistancy, and therefore no value.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #190 from Lightyear: Major, last year you gave a prediction regarding unusually strong winds which would make it difficult to grow crops. Do you have any additional info as far as a timeframe for those events?

[Ed Dames] The end of seasons, food prices will skyrocket...starting now.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #194 from Lightyear: Mr. Dames, do you have any plans to resume personal instruction in RV after you leave Los Angeles?

[Ed Dames] Only children.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #196 from Nathan: I am curious as to wether TRV has been used to try and learn how some people can move objects with PK. If yes, can it aid in learning such things? Thanks.

[Ed Dames] Once again...TRV can be used to discern (really) the mechanics and dynamics of the PK effect. We would actually be able to model the behavior, and if you have a model, you can teach it!

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #202 from Tom: When will you post the session logs and details regarding the plant pathogen ?

[Ed Dames] I haven't planned to do that (in this case), just the resulting data (in several months, you will be able to post your own results).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #203 from Harpo: Do you have any idea why angels have the power to block your view?

[Ed Dames] They appear to interface with the human mind, via another dimension.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #205 from Harpo: Were these angels former "people" who you might recognize as you recognize familiar humans?

[Ed Dames] Angels are "created being", people are "material beings" -- very separate branches on the cosmological phylum.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #208 from Dylan: how would you best describe the time of "divergence"?

[Ed Dames] I label it "discontinuity"-- a break in the evolution of the planet. We do have data, finally, but it will be a number of months before we place it here.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #213 from Harpo: Major Dames, Arthur Wade here. You've gone to a lot of trouble and expense to provide the web platform to further TRV. Without knowing the protocols yet, are we raising salient points daily...or are you ignoring us until we have something intelligent to contribute to the process viewing-wise?

[Ed Dames] You're close to the truth, and my problem. It is very, very difficult to provide a context for your questions (understanding) re TRV until you have at least the basics down. The techniques and methods are unlike anything.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #217 from Harpo: Major Dames, Arthur Wade here. I've got to say it...didn't Art Bell and the Kramer family together give you some kind of a go-ahead to find out about Philip. Don't they realize if you don't tell us at least something the thing may not be a wast of time for them...but we have been waiting for this for quite a while.

[Ed Dames] Re. the Kramers, I did not anticipate that personal data (re Kramer himself) would arise--things that the family really didn't want to know. So, as a "replacement project" PSI TECH will identify the next volcanic eruption in North America.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #222 from Dreamer: Regarding Hale-Bopp a & b, did they separate and can we visualize this with telescope ; do U still stand by this ?

[Ed Dames] The cylinder is a dark object. It will break up in the atmosphere over Equatorial Africa, (most likely).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #227 from Nathan: Some people have bad eyesight, hearing ect. physicaly. Does this carry over to TRV. If so, when working in a group do people cover others weak areas?

[Ed Dames] We do not work in a group, only alone. We compare result as a group. Physical debilities have no deleterious effect on the process, but physical inclemencies do: hangover, body pain, hunger, etc.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #228 from Harpo: C'mon Martin. Answering question about Philip Kramer like that seems like a cop-out even if it isn't. Can't we follow-up any questions. One sentence answers like this could be conducted by Jerry Lewis.

[Ed Dames] Kramer's family (except for one member) was not aware of why he got himself killed. That's all that I'm going to say about this. If law enforcement want's us to bring this case to closure, that's another thing.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #212 from Lightyear: Thanks for doing this chat with us Ed. Do you ever wonder if your doomsday predictions are the result of tapping into a collective anxiety about the future from the population at large?

[Ed Dames] We can easily recognize the difference between physical reality and emotion-feelings, or ideas.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #231 from Laloni: Can you give us a specific prediction that can be verified by non-believers in the very near future such as the location of the missing Air Force jet or something of that nature that is in the news?

[Ed Dames] PSI TECH is not in the "prediction" business, but the data collection business. Here's data re. the future: The National Transportation Safety Board will announce that TWA Flight 800 exploded as a result of a mechanical failure (specifically, the air-driven pump in system #3, i.e., a hydraulic pump) -- how's that for specificity.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #233 from Brent: Martin, could you get a question on about the hold up and shipment of tapes, I've got to get to work, thanks.

[Ed Dames] The editing process is taking a little bit longer than we expected; first tape scheduled for shipment by the end of the month.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #236 from G0th: earlier you said that these angels were among the most bizarre things you have RVed. Why?

[Ed Dames] I did not believe in Angels, and was loathe to accept our own TRV data...but I had to accept it because of its inherent consistent accuracy.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #237 from Tom: Msg passed from Billm--On the Art bell show you stated you would be providing support for the tapes. I would like to know what is the procedure for getting help with Trv once we have started training with the tapes.

[Ed Dames] TRV training support will be provided here, (don't worry, were working out the bugs and ordering more powerful equipment). Data related to the environment, survival, and other PSI TECH projects will be posted on the BB only.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #238 from Scott: Major, could you please tell us what is taught on the Intro tapes and how far we can go with it?

[Ed Dames] The intro tapes will get you "off the ground" by providing you with enough instruction to enable you to distinguish between gross physical sites, such as mountains, cities, water bodies, and land locations, along with general associated physical data (colors, smells, temperatures, sounds, textures), and rudimentary sketching of the site. Of course, you will not (consciously) know what your target site is while you are working.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #242 from Nathan: After a lot of good practice, can one obtain accurate data TRVing without a monitor? Can a monitor act for more than one person at a time? Thanks!

[Ed Dames] You will never be trained to work with a monitor during the initial stages of your training. You must be able to do it youself, and take responsibilty for your own work...sort of like taking a test in school. A monitor is useful when fully trained viewers are working, but works with only a single viewer at a time.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #244 from Dylan: Ed, on Art Bell you mentioned chlorella. You said that one particular kind would be better. Will you elaborate.

[Ed Dames] The more pulverized the cell walls, the greater the digestability. Check around.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #246 from Earth: It takes about 45 mins. I understand to RV (I guess thats a rough average). Is it physically draining, i.e. can you do this several times a day effectively assuming you're in good form?

[Ed Dames] The sessions that you work for the intro tape will only be about 10 minutes. After completion of Step II, about 45 minutes. It is somewhat draining (this is covered in the tape), and I would not recommend more than two TRV sessions a day, if you desire high-quality results.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #249 from Kitab: Betty Edward’s books have been recommended on your BB by Joni as preparation for your training tapes. Any specific exercises from the books you would suggest we work on while awaiting the tapes

[Ed Dames] No, and remember, its not required for success, merely recommended (but only for those of you who--like me--cannot sketch or draw).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #250 from Hannah: /ask have you trved such a person as the Anti Christ and if so are you aware of who that person is

[Ed Dames] We have indeed used the "Anti Christ" as a targeting cue -- it is not a person, it is something connected with all of us (living), and it is not pleasant.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #253 from Laloni: Since you can easily recognize the difference between physical reality and emotion-feelings or ideas, when you RV, do you always automatically get both pieces of information?

[Ed Dames] Yes, it always arises as a result of systematic, methodical exploration of the target or problem. But keep in mind, if the target or site is simply a physical object, then there will be a dearth of emotional -- and perhaps meaning -- data.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #254 from Nathan: Major, have any of you been able or tried to contact and mind probe one of yourselves in the future? Can this method be used to gather data from the future? Thanks!

[Ed Dames] Yes, but we generally recognize two personal futures (this is a very advanced topic) -- one future track is the one we are already on, the other an "optimum" track. I shoot for my mind in the optimum (future).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #258 from Dylan: Ed, is the subconscious, for lack of better words an all knowing platform beyond time and space from which trv accesses?

[Ed Dames] Its the unconscious mind (not subconscious) -- our personal unconscious is immersed in the collective unconscious (cf. Carl Jung), and that is the "field" from whence derives the information -- like a big data base.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #262 from Nathan: Major, are you still actively developing your TRV techniques, probing ways to develop them? Have you had any recent interesting developments of them? Thankyou.

[Ed Dames] No -- after 13 years, I'm finished. I'm turning my attention strictly to problem solving and supporting the training tapes (except for training children).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #263 from Maldeau: I have been working with the Monroe Gateway tapes. Are these helpful for RVing?

[Ed Dames] The Monroe tapes will not complement or assist your TRV skills.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #266 from Duckman: How can you differentiate between one or more alternate future realities? Aren't alternate futures possible?

[Ed Dames] We are only successful at TRVing personal (or groups of people) optimum (as an alternate) future. Otherwise, we simply describe the future. But in many cases involving people (individual decisions) we cannot describe the future -- we must wait until it is resolved before it locks in enough to be discernable (accurately).

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #269 from Laloni: Do past lives exist and have you viewed your own. If so, is it true that there are alot of them per spirit or soul?

[Ed Dames] No "past lives." Apparently, there are always others in the past whose personalities are so very similar to our own that we "tune into" them -- similar to two or more radio stations broadcasting on the same wavelength -- you hear them all at the same time.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #270 from G0th: if it is the "unconscious" mind that does these things, then what does the "subconscious" mind do?

[Ed Dames] You actually have access to your subconscious mind -- but normally to your unconscious mind. The subconscious is constantly keeping track of things that you put there, and if you stop and "look into your mind" then you will have access -- usually thoughts that are placed on the "back burner" : "I've got to get to the store before it closes", or "Does my car have enough gas to get me home", etc.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #271 from Nathan: Major, have you folks ever thought of working with some other groups, say Princeton Anomalies Engineering Research and such? I realize there is little time left for these kind of endeavours. Thankyou.

[Ed Dames] P.A.R.E. wants to comarket a CD ROM with PSI TECH, but we are too busy -- wish that we were not.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #273 from Tom: Question from Poe-it: OK, Ed, I was wondering if you are familir with Predicitions of those Edgar Cayce,, and Scallion, does your data i any respect agree with them? on a personal level what do you think about their predictions, since most of them ar

[Ed Dames] Scallion has so many predictions (doesn't he sell them?) that they are worthless. I have not spent a lot of my time looking at Edgar Cayce (at A.R.E.). Again, we are not in the "prediction business" we collect data about the future.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #276 from Dylan: Ed, will any fish survive the consequences of the pathegen (feeding off the chlorella themselves)?

[Ed Dames] Right now fish are dying off due to overfishing and disease (stress from environmental pollution and ozone depletion) -- not plant pathogens.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #277 from Tom: Question from Joy: Why is training children so important? Thanks.

[Ed Dames] Personal reasons, only. They are not cynical, they are full of joy and have not been beaten down by life -- and they are the ones who will take this technology to an even higher stage of evolution than TRV.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #279 from Meepla: Have you RV'd the afterlife - where the soul goes after death? If so, what is it like there?

[Ed Dames] Your soul departs under escort (Angelic), and we have not really been successful in establishing "chain of custody" -- but, then again, PSI TECH has usually been involved in science and technology projects.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #282 from Barb: Ed, gd! If we don't have past lives, how did we get here, and where will we go from here??!!

[Ed Dames] I don't have all the answers, there are a billion and one things to TRV, and I have only investigates 9,416 of them.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #283 from Harpo: Major Dames, I want to apologze to you. I wanted to get a reaction from Martin, but got posted...and my last words were Jerry Lewis. I take this seriously, but really could not make sense out of Kramer answer.

[Ed Dames] Simply stated: Mr. Kramer got involved (for reasons that I will not elaborate upon) with a "bad group." His wife and children might want to be spared the specifics (although law enforcement might have a different view) -- PSI TECH opened a can of worms.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #285 from Scott: Major, Have you been able to narrow or pinpoint the timeline for First Contact?

[Ed Dames] Yes -- its on its way, destined for the skys over Equatorial Africa!

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #284 from Laloni: Since there are no past lives, what happens to us when we die? Do we become angels, is there a protocal for getting a higher status? Do we just die and leave behind the best we can for all humanity?

[Ed Dames] Once again, people and/or our souls do not become Angels...we are completely separate lines of creation in the grand scheme of things.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #293 from Hannah: /ask I have preschool age children, what age do you work with, is there not an element that is too ummm, ugly for small children to view.

[Ed Dames] I prefer teaching teenagers,13-19. Younger people lack the "thesaurus" to adequately/accurately express (left brain) perception (right brain) connected with higher-level or advanced targets (eg. a target person's "grief" might be expressed only as "he doesn't feel good").

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #297 from Barb: Ed, does today's solar flare have anything to do with the pathogen?

[Ed Dames] Don't know.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #303 from Barb: Why is the place you are going to a safe place, haven, or sanctuary?

[Ed Dames] Wait a few months, and I'll post information like this on the BB.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #308 from Maldeau: Maj. Dames, Have you determined the optimum brain wave pattern for RVing. Thank you.

[Ed Dames] Yes, but its something that the viewer "falls into" as a concomitant of the process. We call it a "high Theta", characterized by a high Theta peak, with very small side lobes, i.e., high attention.

[host] Martin presents the speakers with question #316 from Earth: I have had two questions ignored: You say that the antichrist is a product of the collective unconscious of those alive (correct?) Does that imply that this product could be changed -or eliminated- by an act of will? 2nd: Does trv sharpen your mundane senses? Thanks for being here and giving us this opportunity!

[Ed Dames] I did not state that this appellation was a product of the collective unconscious (read the response, please). I do not know if the "product" could be affected by an act of will (these are epistemological matters). TRV does not sharpen you mundane senses, but it goes far to assist you, day-to-day, in discerning the truth. This is one of the primary reasons why I like teaching teenagers -- they really need something to help sort out the truth from the chaos. Thanks for being here, all. Best -- Ed.

[host] ok thats all folks thank you

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