[VWR]-Digest: V2 #72
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:12:47
EST
From: Dragnwng69 <Dragnwng69@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] List Business - and a note from Pru
<< Yet Another Moderator's
Note - My Last One: Even though Gene was
sweet to me, I am sure that underneath that calm exterior lies
the
heart and soul of a lion... PJ has her system up and running, and
will be returning as Ship Captain tonight. I enjoyed my time with
all
of you, and will continue posting as a regular member of the
list.
Thanks, everyone. Peace, Pru >>
Thanks for moderating Pru! You did a great job!! We had better
see
your name popping up now and again or I am gonna fly out and give
you
a good flogging!! <eg>
~Sarah
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:59:19
+0000
From: "PJ Gaenir" <palyne@zmatrix.com>
Subject: [VWR] List Bizness & Misc.
Hi Viewers,
I'm writing to you from the sunny land of Paradise Texas. My
online
access is a bit sporadic, so VWR posts will go out whenever I can
get
online for a bit, howz that for unpredictable.
I am accepting applications for folks who'd like to help me out
with
some html stuff for the VWR list, PSI list, my Firedocs web site
and
other projects. The pay is minimal.... you really gotta love RV
or
me to want to do this. :-) I've got a lot of stuff to do that
will
never get done at this rate unless I get some help. Archiving the
lists is a big part of it. You'd need Netscape Composer (free for
download online) and a decent text program (free online) and an
FTP
program (free online) and some basic wordprocessing skills. I'm
willing to walk someone through how-to but some basic knowledge
is
necessary.
If there are any artists out there, I'm interested in featuring
some
original art on the Firedocs site, it's being dramatically
revised
toward that end. (Er..... eventually!)
Although I'm in Texas now, I'm going to have to go back to
Seattle to
pack up and move the rest of my stuff down here. This will
probably
happen sometime around the end of May. I am considering renting a
hotel suite for a weekend and inviting anybody who wants to stop
by
the Seattle area to come and join me for some munching and
talking
about RV. (Those with long drives can bring a sleeping bag and
crash
on the floor overnight.) A lot of people have asked to meet me
over
the last couple of years and I've refused, for various reasons
(privacy is important to me, is a big one, and this field draws
some strange folks!). But since I'm leaving that area, I'd like
to
take the time to meet some folks interested in RV before I go.
Anybody interested, send me email and let me know. This is open
to
VWR members and other people I correspond with via email and from
my
web site(s), not to the world at large, so I want to nail down
what
kind of interest there is and who before I make plans, since I'll
be
taking time off work and so on for it. Thanks! :-) Note: This is
not a class on RV. Just casual chat.
I've been skimming the VWR posts that went up since I left.
DRUGS!
Whoa, man. Groovy. OK, that's over now. Otherwise, some very
interesting stuff. :-)
Thanks for being part of this with me you guys. Since I am in the
beginning process of dramatically revising just about every
aspect of
my personal life, my business life, and my online life, anybody
with
suggestions for my online stuff, feel welcome to provide them.
(Suggestions about my personality may be declined. :-))
Regards,
PJ
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:18:40
From: "Paul H. Smith" <phsmith@rviewer.com>
Subject: [VWR] 2nd UT Skeptic target
Don't know what happened to the
notice I sent out about the first "skeptic
target." Somehow or other it never got posted. Just checking
in to let
y'all know that Target #2 is now closed. Ten people worked the
target.
Now we wait 'til they post the feedback and responses to see how
well
everyone did. Once again, the URL is:
www.ph.utexas.edu/~rwynar/RemoteViewing.html
Good luck,
Paul
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:37:36
-0500
From: mceagle@zmatrix.com (Joseph W. McMoneagle)
Subject: Re: [VWR]-Digest: V2 #71
Thanks Pru for all your efforts on the VWR Digest's part. Your
support for PJ while she was in transit was commendable. Now
stick
around and continue to share your comments.
Welcome back, Palyne. Missed you and your support to the Digest.
Hope
that all is well.
Warm regards,
Joe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joseph W. McMoneagle -- IIA, Inc., P.O. Box 100, Nellysford,
Virginia 22958. 804-361-9215 FAX: 804-361-9056
"Courage is the best Slayer." Thus Spake Zarathustra,
XLVI--The
Vision and the Enigma; Friedrich Nietzsche (pub. 1917)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:46:25
-1000
From: Yaana Allen <yaana@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: [VWR]-Digest: V2 #71
> > 2. You are then
softening the filtering mechanism between the conscious
> > mind and subconscious mind. This filter keeps you from
becoming
> > overwhelmed and tends to filter both ways, allowing
only small portions
> > to go into the subconscious mind and only allowing
small portions to go
> > back to the conscious mind. .....
I question this interpretation of the function of the filter. If
the
sub-conscious has access to the matrix, i.e. the electromagnetic
signatures of every event which has ever occurred, from the blink
of
a gnats eye to the biggest disaster, and the sub-conscious
observes
and experiences without judgment, two way filtration is not
relevant.
The sheer magnitude of potential events to view and experience
only
requires a focus of attention, which we do each time we think
about
something. In remote viewing we discipline that thinking process
to
acquire target data. The disciplined focus is required to break
us
out of our constant state of judgment if we expect to get
accurate
data.
It is our conscious minds that pride themselves on their ability
to
judge, add significance to events, and feel that they must
understand
each thing in relativity to another. It is this primary
consciousness which tends to get overwhelmed. Not so much from
the
brute force of the events, but from the significance it has
placed on
the events and it's ability to comprehend it in relation to
previous
significance's it has placed. Our conscious minds are the source
of
AOL, and we live in it every day when we allow the interpreted
significance to eclipse the actual data we head off down the
rabbit
hole.
I have done Past Life Therapy for 20 years, the reason our sub
does
not readily allow us to experience all of our past lives, is this
propensity to judge. I have seen may people reeling from psychic
readings or spontaneous remembrances of past lives because they
now
had multiple life times of events to either beat up themselves
(or
others) with, or use as justifications for current behavior, none
of
which would occur with a competent therapist, but is a natural...
"Oh
My God.. this must mean........"AOL
Many studies have been done on Holocaust and other trauma
survivors,
they seem to fall into three categories: 1: those who feel guilty
for
being alive, bitter and angry and feel they must never let anyone
forget their suffering 2: those who feel lucky to be alive that
because they survived they must live life to it s fullest
enjoying
every moment 3: and those who go about their lives and do what is
needed quietly without reference to the past. These people were
side by side experiencing horrific events, yet the balance of
there
lives was not determined by the event as much as it was the
significance and therefor attitude they have about the
experience.
This is tremendous power.
If we lived in the moment, experiencing events and moving on, as
our
sub-conscious does, the idea of long term suffering from trauma,
or
the need for filters to protect us from overwhelm would be
nonexistent. The source of suffering is the judgment and
attachment
to the way it was before... not the event. the source of accuracy
in
RV is the discipline to collect data without interpreting it .
My goal to develop the skill of RV is to observe these patterns
in
and out of session, because disciplined protocols are not enough
to
maximize our RV potential if we indulge in sloppy thinking
between
sessions. Although not always easy when I run into a particularly
sacred cow, this has been a real blessing. When I have my full
awareness in the present dealing innocently with events I find I
am
much less susceptible to overwhelm, and my mind does not need to
filter or limit the available knowledge from the sub which may be
vital to an accurate understanding and optimization of the
outcome.
Aloha Yaana
- ---------
Moderator's Note: It is sort of funny that I wanted to start a
hypnosis discussion group for years but didn't have the people,
so I
eventually started an RV discussion group and here we are
talking about hypnosis. And related stuff of course. That's kinda
neat! My own experience with "past life" memories
(always
spontaneous in my case, but also with subjects under hypnosis) is
that like Remote Viewing, the biggest danger is getting trapped
in
either the fascination of the process or the potential meaning of
the
details, rather than experiencing it fully then letting go (as
you
said above). But when it comes to models of the critical mind (or
"filter") or other perspectives such as you present, so
far, every
model I have found has actually worked quite well when applied,
even
those that seem to contradict each other. I have to figure this
is
because there is so much to the mind and so many ways to approach
it.
At least, it's the only explanation I have so far. -- PJ
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:00:16
+0100
From: MaryD <Ladyley@innerlightuk.u-net.com>
Subject: [VWR] Wrinkley targets
Has anyone a suggestion for
attaching pictures printed on glossy paper, eg
from National Geographic on to card, without ending up with
wrinkles. I
have tried wall paper paste, PVA, without success.
Thanks in advance, an old wrinkly herself, (well nearly)
<g> MaryD.
In Friendship and Light. MaryD
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:46:28
-0400
From: Prudence Calabrese <prudence@largeruniverse.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] List Business
>MAN! Pru I give you an inch
and you steal the hearts of MY GUYS.
>(Yup, I'm proprietary bigtime about 'em.) Where's my big
club? Just
>kidding. :-) I think. Glad you had a good time with Ghengis
Gene.
>I see from skimming the posts that he hasn't been too onry
with you.
>(He must be getting old.)
Yeah, well you didn't see all the fur flying behind the scenes! ;
)
>Hey, thank you so much for doing such a great job with the
list! I
>got lots of emails from people telling me all was going well
--
>I would have known that if I could read their emails right?
<g>
You are most welcome. I had a blast, to tell the truth. I even
enjoyed the discussion on drugs! LOL! I made a few mistakes along
the
way, but everyone was so kind and gracious. Thanks to all for
participating while I was moderator! I have made many new
friends,
and promise not to be a stranger to the list.
Much peace to all today,
Pru
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Prudence Calabrese
Director
TransDimensional Systems
http://www.largeruniverse.com
tel: (770) 814-9410
fax: (770) 497-1129
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