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Participant Information: Please contact Mr. West for any questions about the 2004 Philmont
Expedition.
Trek Dates: Saturday, July 31 through Thursday, August 12, 2004. If looking
ahead, plan on departing Arlington on either Tuesday, July 27, or Wednesday,
July 28, for pre-Philmont activities. Final plans will be put in
place by end of January, 2004.
Scout participation
requirements:
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Scouts MUST EITHER be 14 by January 1,
2004, OR be 13 and finish the Eighth Grade in 2004. NO
EXCEPTIONS. Scouts cannot be 18 years of age before Day 1
of their Philmont trek. Scouts CAN turn 18 years of age while
on their trek. |
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Scouts MUST be a registered member of a
chartered unit - Troop or Venture Crew. |
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Additional requirements for
participation may be set by Troop Leadership (rank, attendance,
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Adult advisor participation requirements:
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Adult advisors MUST be a registered
member of a chartered unit - Troop or Venture Crew. |
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Adult advisors MUST obtain Youth
Protection Training (YPT) in 2004 before the
trek. |
Cost: A trip to Philmont IS NOT
cheap. Have each participant begin saving now for the costs involved
in planning for, preparing for, and attending Philmont. Personal
expenses include:
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The Philmont
expedition fee: $475.00 per participant (both Scout
and adult advisor)
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Crew Members Payment Schedule
(make checks to Troop 389 and give to Mr.
West) |
| $50.00 |
Paid - August 2003 |
| $212.50 |
Paid - October 2003 |
| $212.50 |
Paid - March 2004 |
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The contingency
fund fee: A contingency fund is used to cover all costs
of travel, lodging, trip related crew gear expenses, a post-trek
pizza or burger feast in Cimarron, and emergency
expenses. This fee will also provide each participant
with one crew T-shirt, the Philmont patch protector, a Philmont bolo
tie, and the annual Philmont round patch. For past trips we
collected $150.00 per participant and refunded $20.00 per
participant on returning home. In looking ahead, my guess
would be that the contingency fee per person for 2004 will be
between $200 and $225. As always, any left over funds will be
distributed evenly among participants as soon as possible once we
are back home. |
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Personal Gear purchases/rentals (Please
contact one of the adult advisors before making ANY major gear
purchase. DO NOT purchase hiking boots for Philmont any sooner
than January or February of 2004.) |
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Shakedown
Campout costs -
campsite and food expenses (We will plan 6 shakedown
campouts/activities. It will be mandatory to attend at
least 4 of these activities including all participants at the
June shakedown.) |
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Meals on the
road to and from Philmont (These are not covered in contingency fee.) |
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Trading
Post/Snack Bar/Trail money (Philmont provides a very full trading post for Scouts to
shop in. Items that will be wanted by all crew members will
include a Philmont belt and a Philmont belt buckle. These 2
items together will probably cost around $25 to $30. A rundown
of available items will be covered at the final parent meeting in
2004. Mr. West would suggest a Scout earn at least $100.00
to use for trading post/snack bar/trail money.) |
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A rough guess of
the total cost for each participant to attend Philmont (not
including any personal gear purchases and allowing $100.00 spending
money) is between $950 and $1,000. That sounds like a LOT of
money, and it is, but take into consideration what any other 15-day
vacation would cost per person. Philmont turns out to be a
pretty good deal, if not a bargain. Scouts should begin earning and saving money
NOW!!! (These are only suggested guidelines, NOT expectations, based on many Scouter's years of experience.) |
PHILMONT WEIGHT LIMITS FOR BACKPACKING & HIKING
| HEIGHT |
RECOMMENDED
WEIGHT (lbs.) |
MAXIMUM
ACCEPTANCE |
| 5' 0" |
97 - 138 |
166 |
| 5' 1" |
101 - 143 |
172 |
| 5' 2" |
104 - 148 |
178 |
| 5' 3" |
107 - 152 |
183 |
| 5' 4" |
111 - 157 |
189 |
| 5' 5" |
114 - 162 |
195 |
| 5' 6" |
118 - 167 |
201 |
| 5' 7" |
121 - 172 |
207 |
| 5' 8" |
125 - 178 |
214 |
| 5' 9" |
129 - 185 |
220 | |
| HEIGHT |
RECOMMENDED
WEIGHT (lbs.) |
MAXIMUM
ACCEPTANCE |
| 5' 10" |
132 - 188 |
226 |
| 5' 11" |
136 - 194 |
233 |
| 6' 0" |
140 - 199 |
239 |
| 6' 1" |
144 - 205 |
246 |
| 6' 2" |
148 - 210 |
252 |
| 6' 3" |
152 - 216 |
260 |
| 6' 4" |
156 - 222 |
267 |
| 6' 5" |
160 - 228 |
274 |
| 6' 6" |
164 - 234 |
281 |
| 6' 7" &
over |
170 - 240 |
295 | |
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From the 2003 Philmont Unit Planning
Guide: "Participants 21 years and older who
exceed the maximum acceptable weight limit for their height at the
Philmont medical recheck, will not be permitted to backpack
or hike at Philmont. For example, a person 5' 10" cannot weigh
more than 226 lbs. The Philmont physicians will use
their best professional judgement in determining participation in a
Philmont trek by individuals under 21 years of age who exceed the
maximum acceptable weight for height. Participants under 21
years of age are strongly encouraged to meet the weight limit for
their height, and exceptions are not made automatically and the
maximum allowable exception is 20 lbs. Discussion in advance
with Philmont regarding any exception to the weight limit for
persons under 21 years of age is required." |
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Quote from the 2003
Philmont Health form: During the summer
of 2002, 28 participants (21 Advisors and 7 youth participants) were
not allowed on the trail because they did not meet the height/weight
requirements. THESE PARTICIPANTS WERE SENT HOME AT THEIR OWN
EXPENSE! |
Medical Information
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Read the Philmont Risk
Advisory here. |
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Every camper and advisor is
required to have a medical evaluation within the twelve (12) months
previous to attending Philmont. The
Philmont Health and Medical Record form MUST be used.
These forms have been received, so
please begin planning your physical exams.
Physical examinations are to be turned in to Mr. West no later
than June 07, 2004. |
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Every camper and advisor
needs to make a full front and back photo copy of their individual
insurance card. These copies are required for medical check-in
at Philmont. Insurance card photocopies are to be turned in
to Mr. West no later than June 07, 2004. |
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Each participant is
required to have a tetanus shot or booster within the previous ten
(10)
years. |
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