[VWR]-Digest: V2 #88

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:17:07 -1000
From: Yaana Allen <yaana@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: [VWR]-Digest: V2 #86

> >could it be that sexual energy enhances remote viewing?

Hummmmm....... interesting subject, one which may have more serious
research done now that the ratio of women to men learning RV is

Boy there is a double-intandra (sp) statement if I ever saw
one....LOL but seriously...

I don't think it is that sexual energy enhances RV, but rather that
there is a bandwidth of consciousness contacted through RV which is
experienced as intensely sexual (although this is a pretty good
carrot to keep you practicing). Both Monroe (" If I had to pass that
test again, I don't think I could do it.") and MacMoneagle mention
experiences of intense sexual energy in their books. There are also
references to this in esoteric and spiritual texts concerning the
right use of sexual energy (definition of this phrase esoterically
is not the same as religious or social connotations) . The military
used to use some titillating practice targets to get/keep the
attention of its male trainees, at this point the line gets blurred,
because that kind of target has inherent purposeful sexual overtones.

Aside from recreational targets there appears to be a bandwidth
of........ energy/consciousness which is experienced as intense
sexual stimulation. This is not the same as physical attraction but
that is, previously, our only frame of reference. In fact by
specifically targeting titillating targets, this area may have been
missed all together because of it's common associations.

This is one of the subjects which will need to be addressed as our
community of RV'rs becomes increasingly co-ed because of the inherent
potential for diversion and distraction.

In researching this issue (boy there's a statement which will
probably get me a few dates..LOl) this band of consciousness is at
the top of each level so to speak. It is usually confused with
physical sexuality, but the tension is not released through orgasm
(opops ther goe the dates..LOL). Rather the tension seems to be a
kind of combination test and sling-shot to catapult you into the next
layer of consciousness, this occurs when (and I am going to get
esoteric here guys..LOL) your integrity and focused purpose are in
alignment with your actions.

The potential growth of consciousness from access to this band of
energy is incredible, and quite separate from our common frame of
reference for this sensation. Although RV and play has it's
intriguing possibilities. One of the ways you can tell the
difference between moving into/through this bandwidth and physical
sexual desires is that although you may associate it with an
individual as source, generally you will not feel it in their
presence and the tension does not release with orgasm. This brings
up some interesting questions about people with sex addictions,
because the relief is only experienced by an expansion or lowering of

What we appear to have is two separate and unique experiences with
very different purposes which feel the same, and for which in the
most part we only have one frame of reference. Much like fear and
excitement, they feel identical in the body, the difference is in the
significance our minds attach to the feeling and the discipline with
which we choose action, there for the quality of our experience as a
result. We can choose to go on a monster roller coaster or jump out
of a plane (with a parachute I hope if you want to do it more than
once) for entertainment.. to experience the rush and call it fun, or
we can become frozen in fear, whether the event is truly dangerous or
not and have a miserable time.

Because of the snicker factor, this is not a subject easily
addressed, but I would like to see some serious research done on this
phenomena because I believe it relates to some very important
cultural blind spots which keep a cap on our developing

Aloha Yaana

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:47:58 -0600
From: "Greg Kolodziejzyk" <greg@ideamachine.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] VWR AOLs in ERV

but isn't it all really just AOL? I mean - ANYTHING that we can imagine is
from our imagination right? Hard, red, or a shiny brass clock mechanism -
it's ALL AOL.


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Moderator's Note: Yes! -- well sorta yes -- you see the light!
Everything that you can put a word to is PROCESSED information.
That doesn't mean it is altered or incorrect. Just that it is
processed by the brain. AOL is a term used in the method. It is
simply to denote certain kinds of data or reception which are known
to be at high risk for inaccuracy due to alteration during
processing. The point of practicing RV is because, since everything
is processed, every individual needs to learn how they process
information, so that by the time their psi data gets into words, it
will be as close to accurate as possible. -- PJ

Date: Tue, 28 Apr 98 22:22 BST-1
From: dwilz@cix.compulink.co.uk (Daniel Wilson)
Subject: Re: [VWR] Silva on RV

MaryD quoted from the Silva web page:
> What do you think the United States government thinks of psychic
> ability? The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was willing to spend
> $11 million (some say it was actually $20 million) to see if
> psychics could help in the espionage game.
> We could have told them that 30 years ago. As a matter of fact, we
> did!
- ----snip----
> At least they were polite enough to answer me. But they gave the
> wrong answer!
> "There is much yet to be learned about the activities of the human
> mind, " the letter from Randal M. Robertson, Associate Director of
> the National Science Foundation said, "and there are many unsettled
> questions about hypnosis and about para-normal activities. There
> does not seem to be any specific need at present for the assistance
> you have offered."

This is par for the course, really. Winston Churchill was extremely
open-minded about these matters and when during WW2 a dowser
presented him with a list of that night's locations of all British
submarines, sent it on to the First Lord of the Admiralty with a
demand for an immediate answer.

There was a fearful fuss because about 80% of the locations were
correct (some of the submarines were actually in dock and the dowser
had not allowed for this). The Admirality was split between genuine
interest and disbelief paradoxically mixed with extreme fear of the
accuracy. Nevertheless Churchill had the pull to get the dowser onto
a minesweeper during exercises and he consistently tracked the two
subs being hunted.

As soon as WC lost interest, the dowser heard nothing more. His 60 or
so U-boat reports proved after the war to have been around 90%
correct but there was a high staff turnover in the Admiralty and the
thread of interest was lost. It was inconceivable to most
high-ranking naval officers not having personal experience of it that
such things were possible.

Much the same thing is happening in oil companies, though there the
complication is that two-thirds of the expenditure goes on
highly-paid geologists who, once exposed to the potentials,
mysteriously lose all interest in furthering research into dowsing.
Oil companies' public ridicule is not all camouflage !

Dan Wilson

Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:06:19 EDT
From: USPsiSquad <USPsiSquad@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] RV and personal aptitude/data shifts/bias

You mean sort of like the blind committee surveying the elephant?

Actually I have found that most female viewers are more accurate with
the people and/or personalities (and colors)....while most of the
males tie into the structural and/or factual complexities.( and tech
details) I have to say 'most' because although my own results lean
much closer to the structural and factual components, in teaching
long-term students I have seen the 'differences' only too often not
to notice them. There are 'slopovers' however, in all categories, so
it is hard to say that "all gizors are green" so to speak.

Bevy J

example: In one recent 'case' where the 'target' was one dismembered
foot, it was instantly apparent to me that it was a female foot.
Since this type of identification is usually only made by a
pathologist, and may be difficult to pin down, it seemed no problem
for myself as a rv'er.(unless there's polish on the nails, of course
:) ) Comments?

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Moderator's Note: Yeah, I'm inclined to comment -- Good grief! What a
bizarre (and rather gross) target! -- PJ

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:44:37 EDT
From: Curran2106 <Curran2106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] Innate RV Ability

In a message dated 98-04-27 03:27:14 EDT, you write:
>>Some (few) persons apparently have the ability natively, and
>>need no training.

Tom: Everyone has the ability to fly an F-16, pilot the space
shuttle, ski the alps, drive a race care or whatever. We, as the
most current ruling hominid on this planet all have essentially the
same inherent abilities and capabilities to do anything anyone else
can...The difference between us is defined only by the amount of
training and education we receive....You can certainly read your
books, do your RV freestyle and assume in the end that your
capaibilities are a natural gift and therefore you can dispense with
any sort of protocol, opr additional training...However, if you
taught yourself to drive a car on a John Deere tractor...it does not
qualify you for the Indy-500 does it... Gene "Kincaid"

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Moderator's Note: Well, even the so-called "phenoms" or "naturals,"
Joe McMoneagle for example, he's put 25 years or so into working his
butt off on RV -- so natural or not, one can't really say that he has
not trained himself, been trained by others doing various things
(e.g., dowsing), and trained in innumerable areas and ways as part of
the lifetime process. Training seldom hurts. But IMO it is no
replacement for talent in RV, regardless of what some say. If
someone's a psychic brick, training will teach them to be comfortable
with whatever they have (are comfortable manifesting). Which will
probably be way more than they realize. But it isn't going to make
them "better than the average natural psychic." Under proper
protocol, I have seen no evidence of that. -- PJ

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:40:15 EDT
From: Curran2106 <Curran2106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR]-Digest: V2 #74

In a message dated 98-04-27 03:27:23 EDT, you write:

<< My "OBEs" have a very real tone to them in the beginning but
seem to fade into my imagination. Do you think a monitor would be
benificial? What are your suggestions from this point?
John >>

John...I suggest you ask the others in the web or were doing free
style what benefit the Monitor brought to the session...You may want
to address this to Skyemberr who recently had the opportunity to deal
directly with a monitor .. She most certainly can tell you the
difference ffrom her excellent freestyle and the benefits that were
derived from having a monitor present..Ask "Monika"- one of Liam's
students.. Gene "Kincaid"

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:37:11 EDT
From: Curran2106 <Curran2106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR] Spooks in RV

In a message dated 98-04-27 03:27:21 EDT, you write:

<< am I think I comprehend are you saying that you deal with a spirit during
EVR orCRV, but if you make some bad dessions during the day you may have
envoked a leprecon(less than nice spirit)?
John >>

John: Check out ancentry and tradtions...NOBODY and I mean NOBODY
(except may Walt Disney) have ever allueded to the fact that wee
people, fairies or Leprachauns are "nice"..They can be very very
nsaty when they want to be...Evoking or calling upon the wee people
for assistance is NEVER EVER NEVER done in Ireland...The closeness
the wee people have with the underworld realms of the Tuatha De
Danaan, the Formorians and Satan would obviate looking for assistance
from other forces which may not require such high return payments.
Gene "Kincaid"

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:09:06 -0400
From: "Joseph W. McMoneagle" <mceagle@zmatrix.com>
Subject: Re: [VWR]-Digest: V2 #83

>I came upon this reference from Jose Silva. The complete text can be
>found at http://www.talamasca.org/avatar/silvagovernment.html
>Thoughts anyone?

As regards accuracy. I myself have used terms like 15 percent, twenty
percent, sixty percent, and eighty percent. To be honest, they are all taken
out of context when quoted and have no meaning when out of context. They all
represent different things like; about as close to a miracle as you can get,
near perfect photographic overlay, on target, and accuracy when on
target--all said at different times and in response to different questions.

I don't want to get into any kind of a pissing contest with Silva, so
I will stick to what I know to be true. I know of no correlation
between Silva techniques and RV (any RV method), I also know of no
Silva method tested within the parameters of a remote viewing
protocol under acceptable lab conditions. If anyone does, please
refer them to me. I believe the Silva techniques to be quite
effective and efficient in their own rights for what they are meant
to do. I wonder why the government RV program has to be put down or
equated to Silva in order to bring focus there? Silva may have
deserved a better reception back in 1965, I don't know, I wasn't in
the decision loop, but the reasons RV was pursued are quite apparent
and have nothing whatsoever to do with Silva.


Joseph W. McMoneagle -- IIA, Inc., P.O. Box 100, Nellysford,
Virginia 22958. 804-361-9215 FAX: 804-361-9056

"Courage is the best Slayer." Thus Spake Zarathustra, XLVI--The
Vision and the Enigma; Friedrich Nietzsche (pub. 1917)

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